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belly dance teachers in marrakech

topic posted Mon, February 6, 2006 - 3:42 AM by  Carolina
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do any reputable ones exsist in marrakech?
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  • Re: belly dance teachers in marrakech

    Wed, February 8, 2006 - 8:35 AM
    You might have a hard time getting an answer out of this tribe unfortunately ;-). You'll probably have an easier time finding someone when you actually arrive in Morrocco. Ask some dicreet questions about dancers in the area. I take Morroccan style BD but here in Montreal. I hope you find someone......
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      Wed, February 8, 2006 - 2:26 PM
      how funny i didn't even know that moroccan style exsisted. my exhusband is moroccan and i've been to marrakech but it doesn't seem easy to study there as it is frowned upon as a career choice because of islamic beliefs. i've seached for teachers and haven't found any in morocco except one was listed in casablanca but it's not a nice city to live in so i won't be going there.
      is your teacher moroccan?
      • Re: belly dance teachers in marrakech

        Fri, February 10, 2006 - 6:29 AM
        Funnily enough, no. But, she was married to a Morroccan and lived there for 3- years and her children are half Morroccan. So I think she qualifies. Like anything else the style of dancing is unique to the area you're in. North African BD is a little different than middle Eastern and even Egyptian style. But most of the basic moves are the same.
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          Mon, February 13, 2006 - 9:13 AM
          In all of my years dealing with Moroccan affairs, I've never noticed bellydancing to be a big part of the culture. Algerian cabarets and parties often feature belly dancers (when not attacked by Islamists), as well as in Tunisia, but I haven't found the same to be true in Morocco. I guess the Egyptian fever didn't catch on everywhere in North Africa.

          You could definitely find a sheikha, though. Ask your soon to be Moroccan friends to take you to a party featuring sheikhaat.
          • Re: belly dance teachers in marrakech

            Mon, February 13, 2006 - 12:27 PM
            ohhhh
            Who's want to see a (sheikhaat)? lol ;D
            • Re: belly dance teachers in marrakech

              Mon, February 13, 2006 - 1:00 PM
              I had a friend who took a dance lesson with a former shikha in NYC. Crazy!

              I hate the way such women are objectified, but a party with good food, strong majoun and crazy dancers sounds fun. I'm sure most respectable women wouldn't be caught dead at such a gathering, but I can pretend to not be respectable for a day ; )
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                Re: belly dance teachers in marrakech

                Mon, February 13, 2006 - 2:04 PM
                Samir, you sheikhaat!?!?!? count me in....I love sheikhaat and Guedra and Dabkeh....oh darn, I just love to dance....

                an AEWSOME resource for Morroccan dance is a woman by the name of Morrocco, we also call her Aunty Rocky..she has traveled the globe to learn and teach true Raqs sharki....and has gotten into places many westerners can only dream of experiencing..I will be hosting her for a workshop here in Buffalo, NY oct 7th 2006....until then, here is the link to her website..a stronghold of info...and an amazing dancer....

                www.casbahdance.org/
                • Re: belly dance teachers in marrakech

                  Mon, February 13, 2006 - 8:42 PM
                  No No nedra , I'm not an Sheikhaat , Because this name it menas : for Women Dancer.
                  But I do love to watching them and also Guedra & Dabkeh , I like Gnaoua Too . it is Wonderful Music. anyway ..........
                  who is can to dance in Raqs Sharki ?
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                    Re: belly dance teachers in marrakech

                    Sun, February 26, 2006 - 8:33 PM
                    well, ya! I dance Raqs Sharki! Egyptian cabaret is my main dance....well, that's why I was laughign t you saying you were dancing Sheikhaat silly! how is marakech? how long are you & your sister there for? it s a balmy 20 degrees and snowing here.....I'll trade you a handful of snow for some sand any day.....
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            Tue, February 14, 2006 - 7:05 PM
            You're right about belly dance performers not being such a large part of Moroccan culture. It is the style of dance for Moroccans but performers are mostly found at restaurants, bars, and tourist attractions. They don't seem to be at parties and weddings. Then again my ex came from a very conservative family. I don't know what a sheikha is and am very curious because of the reaction. Samir, you live in Marrakech. Do you know any girls who take belly dance lessons?
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              Wed, February 15, 2006 - 12:33 PM
              see I was going to say that I have learned to dance sheikhat and chaabi but whenever I do, no one seems to know what I'm speaking about, lol, that is outside the Moroccan community. But that is Morrocan Style/ Algerian/ Tunisian though some basic step and movements are different. They also have much in common that the other forms of BD don't....
              • Re: belly dance teachers in marrakech

                Wed, February 15, 2006 - 1:01 PM
                Sheikhaat is definitely an Algerian phenomenon, too. Disreputable women who perform for money exist everywhere in the Muslim world, so they should exist in Tunisia, too. I'm going to delve into this and see what I find.

                They might be confused: sheikhaat refers to women performers, so if you say "I dance sheikhaat", it might not make sense gramatically to natives (see Samir's input in this thread for more insight) "Chaabi" just means "popular" in Arabic, so you might catch them off guard if they're not on the same wavelength as you. But I would think hearing "sheikhaat", "chaabi", "dance" all in the same sentence might clue them in...

                As for different chaabi stylings, Algerians tend to think Moroccan chaabi is waaay too ghetto/country/homegrown for their tastes. Tunisian music is right out weird; I haven't figured it out yet, and I don't know if all of them have yet. I saw some Tunisians dance to "Sidi Mansour" once (their REAL national anthem); I didn't know you were supposed to do a jumpy dance in a circle to it. It might have been a special instance, though.

                You probably just talked to stupid people who don't know anything about their own country. Sometimes it happens. All that stuff is so traditional that a cosmopolite North African might not know about it or admit to knowing about such old-fashioned stuff. They might have grown up abroad, might not be too into their roots...the possibilities are endless.

                big caveat here: i love Morocco and would never wish to offend anyone : )

                In the 70's and 80's, the few Moroccan immigrants to North America were students, professionals, etc. The most recent wave, the much bigger one, mainly consists of workers, agricultural enthusiasts, etc. This latter wave knows A LOT about sheikhaat and chaabi. If you talk to natives of a different social strata, they'll be able to talk your ear off not about chaabi, but about the fine art of andalusian music (yawn).
                • Re: belly dance teachers in marrakech

                  Wed, February 15, 2006 - 2:11 PM
                  Naww, actually I meant that people outside the culture (meaning not Morroccan) don't know the references to the dance. That circular dance with the stamping is also performed by Morroccan's, at least here in this community in Montreal. Yes you are right that chaabi refers to popular dance, I just meant that I was taught that it refers to popular dance in Morrocco because there are other words used in other parts of the Mid-east ex. raks sharqi or baladi, etc.. Anyway, whats important is that we here know what it means, right! LOL. ;-)
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                  Wed, February 15, 2006 - 2:13 PM
                  Naww, actually I meant that people outside the culture (meaning not Morroccan) don't know the references to the dance. That circular dance with the stamping is also performed by Morroccan's, at least here in this community in Montreal. Yes you are right that chaabi refers to popular dance, I just meant that I was taught that it refers to popular dance in Morrocco because there are other words used in other parts of the Mid-east ex. raks sharqi or baladi, etc.. Anyway, whats important is that we here know what it means, right! LOL. ;-)

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